Critically examining the "End of the World"
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do you believe it?
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about 1 year ago
i don’t know, but we’ll find out if its true or not won’t we?
about 1 year ago
nope… i really dont believe in dates… we had so many of those in the past…
about 1 year ago
i believe it, its all true, and all he said will come to pass
but he got the dates wrong
about 1 year ago
no
and i don’t believe it
about 1 year ago
Ok I have a problem with Nostradamus because if you google him you will find he missed as many predictions as he got right. Oh and the ones he got right were twisted to look as if an event. I will make a bet with you. I bet if you right now if you write a bunch of things you think are gonna happen in the future and wait and watch, I bet you would get a whole lot right yourself. The prediction comes from the Mayans calender which puts dooms day at December 21,2012, (Mayans studied astronomy.) So does a chinese calender predict same day. Now if you look all this up and google it, that is the common factor they all have. People have predicted end times and dates for centuries. The only credit I would give to this particular prophesy is that an alignment between Mars and some rare solar events are to happen that year. So if anything we may have some effects from that. All this is interesting yet I would not say that I believe it. I do however believe in bible prophecy which has never failed to be correct. I recommend a book by Tim LaHaye Understanding Bible prophecy for yourself. Also a book called The Road To Armageddon by Charles Swindoll, John Walvoord, and Dwight Pentecost. This are people that have studied in dept and are well known theologians. Especially books by John Walvoord. I love the subject and have studied it for years. You will be able to see for yourself how prophecies were fulfilled and when. All Bible Prophecy has been fulfilled accept for the 7 year tribulation, and armageddon, and the rapture of the church, The one thousand year reign of the Messiah. Confusing I understand but once you do an all around study, and get hold of these books you will have a great understanding. It is so exciting if you like doing research.
about 1 year ago
No I haven’t seen but I don’t believe it. Why? Because Nostradamus’ predictions have consistently failed to come true. It is only because they are vague, four line poems called ‘quatrains’ that the the so-called Nostradamus experts are able to embellish and make appear to come true after the fact.
What about one of Nostradamus’s more specific predictions: On the the seventh month of 1999 the Great King of Terror will come from the sky to bring back the Great King of the Mongols.”
When both Great Kings were a total no-show in July of 1999 the Nostradamus experts explained that Nostradamus had used the Julian Calendar therefore September of 1999 was the target date, not July. When nothing happened in September they speculated that it was really a date to come later. AFTER 09-11 they tried to say that Nostradamus had really been meaning 09-11-2001, not 1999!!! Now that’s a real stretch!
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about 1 year ago
Yes, and yes i do believe it.
about 1 year ago
Yes I’ve watched it but I’m not sure I believe it…I’ll just wait and see
about 1 year ago
I believe most it actually – the only thing I don’t believe is that the world will end 2012. Maybe 2102/2201/2210, but not in three years time.
You must remember that he wrote things in code because of the prosecution of any who would be a witch/etc – he protected himself, his family, and his prophecies.
Many people say he has gotten the dates wrong, but you must also remember that we of this day and age, and those before us, did not speak to him personally. We are simply interpreting what we believe the codes to be. We could be the ones who are wrong.
I would actually like to see some of the brilliant minds of today look at his prophecies and try to interpret them; hopefully a fresh outlook would give us more insight.
Also, he saw things that wouldn’t have even been dreamed of in his era – planes, guns, etc. He described them as best he could, but that doesn’t mean that we know exactly what it means, now does it? Each person views things their own way, and to see something you never have before, and then to describe it, can lead to it being completely different in description from anothers view.
I believe we will have another war, I believe that many of the things he’s said will come to pass. I also believe that fate is ever-changing, and that our own choices effect the future. So the sway of the modern world, in all of its ages and changes, has evolved beyond what he saw, and perhaps changed of its own accord? Just because one persons sees it, does not mean that it shall come to pass.
His prophecies could very well have been things that could be, if one path was taken over the other. It is not an exact science, and I think it foolish for people to expect it to be perfect – no human in any sense of sight or power, is.
I hold more faith in his prophecies and their ‘would-be’ fates, than I do in some of the beliefs of this era.
There are days though, that I wish another as gifted as he would emerge, and speak out. This world is in sore need of guidance and counsel.
Good luck to us all.
about 1 year ago
Yea, on the History Channel and it doesn’t say much. It usually talks about how he’d predict it, not say what he saw.
about 1 year ago
Like all of the 2012 boloney, it is just htat… boloney.
The 2012 hoax-off has many claims, even quite a few that are self contradicting, and many others that contradict other parts of it.
It is difficult to calculate where it began. It seems several different armageddon’s sort of (slowly at first, then faster and faster as of recent months) “merged” into one.
First off, you have the Mayan Calender, (a cyclical calender) that turns over to a new Baktun on Dec. 21 (or 23 to some people’s interpretations) 2012. It’s the equivalent of a new year’s day for them. The calender rolls over, like your car odometer would… and you car doesn’t end when it ticks over to a new front digit, does it? The guy to blame for this nonsense is Jose Arguelles. Do a wiki search on him to determine if he has any understanding of archeaology or interpretation of Mayan artifacts, (credentials are lacking, imagination is not). Then decide if you wish to believe him or not.
The Planet X nonsense is the concoction of Nancy Lieder. She tried to sell books to “survive the end of the world” when this planet was suppossed to crashinto earth, or cause a pole shift, or whatever… back in 2003.
Since she didn’t sell enough books, she republished it, changed the date to match with Jose Arguelles’ end of the world, and, VOILA! A new money making machine with zero scientific evidence whatsoever!!! Hooray! A sucker is born every minute… And Ms. Leider wants that suckers wallet. Throw her lil sidekick Mark Hazelwood into the mix, and you have a recipe to confuse people into scaring them into emptying their wallets.
It’s a shame if you ask me.
What else?
Zechariah Sitchin’s Niburu?
Ooooh, don’t get me started. First of all, he misinterpreted an ancient Sumerian artifact. Fudged some dates on some mass extinction periods on earth, and came up with some 2085 date for the Annunaki to come back and get the gold from earthlings that we’ve alledgedly suppossed to have been mining for them for a few millenia.
Problem is, Sitchin’s fake planet was not intended to come in 2012, he claims it will return in 2085 (equally impossible), either way he is upset the 2012ers had no problem hijacking his planet and throwing it into the mix, not that a fake planet will come by no matter what hypothetical year you attribute to it.
Do you want me to continue?
I can certainly go into greater detail, if you would care te delve into it.
about 1 year ago
According to their prophecies.
In December 2012 Nibiru will finally reach the neighbourhood of Earth and the Annunaki will invade again, hoping to enslave humans again to mine gold for them. Imagine their disappointment when planet X also appears out of nowhere and causes a pole shift, thereby making a really big mess of Earth and probably Nibiru too.
Simultaneously, all the planets in our solar system will align as the Earth enters the photon belt around the Seven Sisters, creating a spiritual paradigm shift among humans, passes through the galactic central plane and the Earth, Sun and the galactic centre all line up. This will of course send the Earth spiralling into the Sun, or maybe away from it, or into the galactic centre, or maybe not, just as a solar storm rages up and causes another pole shift on Earth.
Meanwhile, the Earth is being pounded by huge asteroids and all the bees in North America will drop dead, probably killed by swine flu.
If there are other obscure and contradictory prophecies from the outer Mongolians, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce, the Chinese, the Egyptians, Pitjantjatjara, Calthumpians, pseudo historians and fake scientists or other improbable or impossible global disaster scenarios, they are all just as true too.
Head for the hills, but buy a survival handbook and disaster video first.
Lets get serious for a moment. You’d have to glue my eyes open and clamp my head in place before I’d watch that vicious drivel.
Every damn word promoting disaster in 2012 is a lie intended to sell fake survival books, cheap videos and fraudulent “documentaries” to irresponsible TV networks.
It is vicious drivel promoted by liars for personal profit only. If their filty fraud results in the deaths by suicide of anyone at all, it is my intention to encourage criminal prosecution of anyone who promotes these lies, in any country where it can be done.
Let’s see some of those fakes and frauds extradited to some flea-pit country and prosecuted for contributing to a suicide. Then spending 5 years in a hell-hole prison.
about 1 year ago
Yes, I have watched it, and no, I don’t believe it. If you search through Nostradamus’ writings, you will find that he never mentions 2012. Also, Nostradamus wrote in riddles. Even Nostramus scholars can’t agree on how his writings should be interpreted.
I saw an answer some time back that I thought was an excellent analogy. They said that saying Nostradamus’ prophecies have come true was like shooting an arrow into a blank wall, then painting a bullseye around where the arrow struck.