Critically examining the "End of the World"
Will the world really end on dooms day from the Nostradamus effect in 2012?
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about 1 year ago
Nostradamus was, by profession, an apothecary – which, in modern terms, is a pharmacist.
The predictions of Nostradamus can be compared to that of an arrow being shot at a blank wall on which the believers paint a target around its landing!
about 1 year ago
Everything explained here:
http://www.universetoday.com/category/2012/
Clear skies! Enjoy reading!
about 1 year ago
It’s from the Hysteric Channel.
They gave up saying the truth about 2012 about 5 years ago.
Nostradamus never, ever, wrote anything about 2012. Nostradamus was writing about the Wars of Religion (1562 to 1598) and he died — in 1566 — between the second and third such wars (there were eight). Most of his “predictions” were about the second and third war.
Nostradamus had inside knowledge because he was the astrologer to the King’s mother (when she was the regent). At one point, the wars involved two branches of the Royal families (“two brothers torn, two towers…”)
The towers refer to the separate wings of the castle, where each brother was groomed (by separate camps) to become the next king.
Nostradamus was writing very vaguely, because he had sided with the wrong side (losing side) of the family, and was afraid to be — how could we say — dragged in for questioning (which, in those days, involved very few questions and no lawyer).
Nostradamus never wrote anything that went beyond the end of the 16th century. Anything that is claimed to be a Nostradamus prediction for our modern times (including 9-11) was made up after the fact.
The Nostradamus “prediction” about 2012 was invented after June 2003. It was invented by the charlatans who had invented Planet X for the end-of-the-world hoax of 2003.
Planet X was to pass too close to Earth in May-June 2003, causing all kinds of trouble (including a global tsunami and pole flips). The charlatans were selling survival kits and books on how to survive.
After June 2003, the book was not selling so well, so they had to recycle their hoax. That is when they came up with the Big 2012 Hoax. The charlatans are the ones who invented the “Ancient Predictions” and who produced the fake documentaries that the Hysteric Channel keeps showing.
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In his last years, Nostradamus published his quatrains many times. He went to various publishers and the quatrains do change from one edition to another (so you can pick and choose whichever one you want — sometimes they contradict each other).
He sank a good portion of the family wealth into publishing his quatrains, leaving his son (César) with little money and lots of books.
It is César who started the idea that his father was a prophet and that his prophesies were contained in the books he had for sale.
And sure enough, the prophesies about the second war (which took place BEFORE Nostradamus died) turned out to be true — after someone interpreted them (they were written very vague on purpose).
Then some of the ones for the third war turned out to be true (for example, the “prediction” that the Royal families would be torn by the war — not surprising since each side wanted things to go differently).
We do not know if César became very rich, but we do know that he succeeded in giving his father a reputation as a prophet.
Since then, they have been repeatedly interpreted and translated, with “hidden meaning” sometimes found (but always after the fact).
The most famous one in USA is the prediction about the two towers (which really was about the splitting of the Royal Family in the 16th century).
Compared to the original quatrains, the English-language translations are generally very poor. The manipulations really do show.
about 1 year ago
2012…the year……the day……..mankinds final………the last time in earths history…….can we meet the challenge……are we as a species strong enough…….will it be the last time…..we see dec.21 2012 ?….
i,d like to thinks so because the next day will be the 22,..then..23…then 24…and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on…..
about 1 year ago
Old Nosty was a doctor and pharmacist in France hundreds of years ago. As a doctor he was fairly good by the standards of the times which were very low. Any trained nurse now knows more and would be far better.
In later life he took to scribbling vague verses. Nobody since then has really understood what they mean. Many have claimed that one with the word “Hister” in in really was about Hitler, but Hister is an old name for the Danube River which flows through Vienna and Budapest, both important places in those days.
Not a single one can really be connected with anything that happened after he died. There is one that seems to be about the death of a King of France in a jousting accident, but that happened seven years before Nostradamus died, so it isn’t prophecy.
His books were forgotten for hundreds of years but were revived in the early 1800s when a fashion for the occult and medieval stuff went through France. That was when the “Hunchback of Notre Dame” was written and some books on magic were printed.
Since then various woo-woos have been claiming he predicted this and that. What actually happens is that after something happens, they search through everything old Nosty wrote and pick something that might look a bit like whatever it was.
On top of that, some people have faked various verses and inserted them into fraudulent editions of his books.
So nothing about him is reliable, Anyone quoting him is automatically a whacko or a fraud, in my opinion and deserves to be thoroughly ignored.
about 1 year ago
It’s not a site… it’s a commercial promoting the History channel programming.
If this “Nostradamus effect” is real, then where is the evidence?
Why is not a single word placed onto true science websites or into science journals and publications?
Why can I go into my local library and not find one single book in the entire catalog about this “Nostradamus effect”?
The Nostradamus effect is the History channels way of getting you to watch the History channel.
Put down you National Enquirer tabloid and watch this crap that passes for entertainment if you wish but at least view it sensibly. Make special note how the show is written. After all, this is not a documentary. It is one person writing a tv show to make his living hoping that some station puts it on the air. If you listen carefully (as most viewers don’t) you will hear “Does Nostradamus mean armageddon when he writes….” or “Did Nostradamus mean the year 2012 in his ninth quatrain…”. This is not journalism nor history.
The History channel has no self-pride when it comes to programming. After the Nostradamus effect you can make some popcorn and sit through Monster Quest.
“The end is near. At least that’s what the doomsday predictions from Nostradamus, the Book of Revelation, the Mayan “long count” calendar and others would have us believe.”
Quite the attention grabber eh? Too bad none of it is the truth. Don’t allow the cable name ~ history channel ~ to deceive you into believing that the shows being broadcast are true historical information.
First, Nostradamus never predicted anything. Nothing, Don’t believe me? Research it for yourself. Nostradamus was a Frenchman. In the mid 1500s there were no laws preventing plagiurism. It has been well documented (yet for some odd reason little known) that Nostradamus’ book The Prophesies was copied from previously printed works in Latin by Livy, Suetonius, Plutarch, Villehardouin, Froissart, Pseudo-Methodius, the Tiburtine Sibyl, Joachim of Fiore, Savonarola, Petrus Crinitus, and Iamblichus which Nostradamus simply translated into French and took credit for.
Nostradamus at least had the common sense to always publicly shun the title of prophet. Perhaps his intent was to title his publication The Prophesies by Nostradamus instead of The Prophesies of Nostradamus. But Nostradamus certainly did not shy away from the attention the book brought him.
Nostradamus was not a prophet but he did attempt to make a living as an astrologer. He was not adept at this profession either. Even in his astrological writings it was later found that he had copied the majority of them from Richard Roussat (even to the point of copying some planetary tables wrong!).
Nostradamus was ~ at the most ~ a fraud and charlatan who took works of others and credited it as his own.
I notice that the History channel is promoting Nostradamus as a healer. It was careful to say that Nostradamus “treated” people of the Plague with his herbs. It fails to state that not a single one of his concoctions ever worked. Not his herbs nor his blood-letting. In fact, his own wife and children died of the Plague.
In his attempts at medical science, it has been again proved that Nostradamus specialized in plageurism by copying the medical writings of Galen. Nostradamus was not a physician as the History channel is promoting him to be.
“Many unsettling forecasts of global destruction even pinpoint the year: 2012.”
Who is it that has made these forecasts? Not any scientist that I am aware of.
“If these prophecies are accurate and inevitable, is there any way to avoid or at least postpone them from coming true?”
The sales pitch. Note in the program how many times the word IF is also used.
“Effect examines these to separate the prophecies that appear to be inspired visions from those that are merely crackpot conspiracy theory.”
Don’t count on too many crackpot theories to be presented on this program. Prophesy comes from the word Prophet. Someone who attains information in a divine way. This most certainly was not the man Michel de Nostredame.
Second, you bring up Revelations. Maybe I missed it somewhere. Which verse has 2012 in it again?
Revelations was written around the year 96 by John the Apostle while he was in exile on the Greek island of Patmos imprisoned in a cave. Strange how often ‘visions’ come to people such as Jesus the Christ and Muhammed who seclude themselves for 30 or 40 days in a cave or on a mountain. Most scholar accounts refer the apocalypse as the years from 300BC to 200AD. A story of what has already happened. It is only religious zealots who promote the end-of-the-world as a form of scare tactic (that works) used to keep the sheep in the herd. Repent for the end is near. The Bible told me so.
Third, the Mayans never spoke of 13 baktuns being any doomsday. Not any more apocolyptic than 3114BC was. How much do you understand about the Mayan culture?
Exactly. Hoaxers know that you know nothing about the Mayans.
about 1 year ago
The only EFFECT Nostradamus had was to write complete nonsense which people could read and interpret any way they wanted!
2012 is a complete 100% junk science internet hoax; usually believed by people who did poorly in their science classes!
The planets NEVER ACTUALLY ALIGN. Their orbits prevent an actual straight line alignment.
Planet X does not exist anywhere in the sky. No where on the internet can you find the sky coordinates for this fake planet. It is not hiding behind the sun (we orbit the sun ), it is NOT visible from the Southern Hemisphere. We can see in every direction with our telescopes.
No near Earth objects are headed our way for a catastrophic impact in 2012.
The Earth and sun “line-up” on the center of the galaxy every year on December 21st! We are actually 6 degrees away from the center MOVING AWAY!
The whole thing is a complete hoax. Watch the famous astronomer Neil Tyson make fun of the 2012 hoax.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJjQMwEjC…
and READ what NASA’s scienctists think about this 2012 nonsense:
http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/ask-an-astr…
As for the Mayans; they believed that the Earth was flat and had 4 corners. They also believed that the sky was held up by 5 large trees each one a different color, and believed the Earth rested on the back of a giant crocodile! They worshiped the SUN god!
Does this give you any confidence that they knew ANYTHING about the Earth or the universe!
Good GRIEF!
http://www.2012hoax.org